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Welcome to the podcast where we talk more about the things that we should talk more about.

Each week, Abel and Aaron sit down to discuss life’s biggest questions that fill our 20s and 30s. From the things that keep us up at night, to the pursuits that wake us up every morning, this is a project where vulnerability meets our curiosity (and a little humour).

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What we discuss?

It’s Only Up from Here is a podcast hosted by Abel and Aaron. Each week we discuss the topics that we never got the chance to learn about in school. Things like the fine line between pursuit and obsession, when it’s okay to make a bad decision, or what it takes to find a meaningful identity. All things that are hard to examine, but important to explore on the road to self discovery. Usually, our discussions boil down the one of three areas in our life, but chances are we will digress from there.


  • Our Money

    Money is about so much more than side hustles or savings accounts. It’s an outward display of who we are and what we believe in. We discuss the psychology behind the financial decisions that make us human.

  • Our Relationships

    From the dating apps that fail us to the friendships that change to the family dynamics that evolve – we're exploring how relationships shape us, break us, and make us grow. No topic is off-limits.

  • Our Human Condition

    Sometimes we're thriving, sometimes we're just surviving. We dive deep into mental health, personal growth, and those existential questions that hit different in your 20s and 30s.

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Who are we?

Aaron is a writer and financial advisor working in Winnipeg, Canada. He writes about mental models, human behaviour and wealth creation. Outside of his work, he enjoys working out, golfing, reading, and eating peanut butter.

Abel considers himself an eclectic. He works in marketing for a large financial services firm and spends his spare time with friends, reading, painting and watching sports. He is easily intrigued by science and math, music and film, and design (he’s our graphics team).